Tricked by Hario?

The test I didn't plan on running

I was in the middle of editing a video about the Mugen Dripper, just working through my own first impressions of it, when I said something out loud that stopped me. I called the Mugen my third favorite Hario V60, and called the regular V60, the brewer that got me into pour over in the first place, my fourth. Editing forces you to hear your own claims played back at normal speed, and that one didn't sit right the second time I heard it. If I believed that ranking, the least I owed it was a test.

The two brewers, side by side

Both are the same 60 degree cone. Both come from the same company. The real difference, once I set them side by side, is smaller than I expected. The Mugen has no ridges at all inside the cone, it's smooth from top to bottom, where the regular V60 has those familiar spiral ridges along part of the wall and a smoother middle section. The V60's opening at the bottom is also a touch bigger than the Mugen's. That's it. Not a different filter shape, not a different flow philosophy, just a smoothed-out interior and a slightly smaller hole.

Setting up a fair fight

I wanted to know if that smoothed interior changes what ends up in the cup, so I built the test to remove every other variable I could. The same coffee, a Brazilian, split evenly between the two brewers. A general recipe I use, run identically on both sides, same ratio, same grind, same pouring pattern, using the same pour-over assist device for both so the water agitation would be as close to identical as I could get it by hand. Same mug style for both cups. I didn't watch the clock, I just let each brew run its course and timed it after the fact.

The specific recipe matters less than people think, and I change mine constantly. A recipe gets you from point A to point B, and plenty of different ones work. What matters for a test like this is that both sides got the same one.

Watching two beds settle

Both brews landed at almost the same total time, right around a minute and 26 seconds. The coffee bed in the Hario V60 looked exactly how I'd expect after years of using it. The bed in the Mugen looked different, and if I'm honest it's not a bed shape I love looking at, even though I like the brewer itself. I've made peace with that. What matters to me is what lands in the mug.

Tasting them back to back

The V60 cup tasted like the easy morning cup I've made a thousand times on this exact brewer. Nothing stuck out of it in either direction, a mild sweetness sitting under a soft acidity that never pushed at the sides of my tongue, and nothing hollow underneath it either. The Mugen cup came at me with more weight, heavier across the middle of the sip and longer in the finish, and a green apple tartness in it that I didn't pick up as clearly in the other cup. That was my honest first impression, tasting before I measured anything.

What the numbers said

Then I pulled out the refractometer. The TDS readings came back essentially the same between the two, right around 1.03. The extraction percentages matched too, close enough that there was no meaningful gap between them. Two brewers I'd been treating as different tools, with different reputations in the pour-over corners of the internet, produced coffee that measured as functionally identical. That's the moment the video's title question became a real one for me instead of a hook.

So did I waste my money

I don't have a clean answer, and I'd rather say that honestly than pretend I do. These brewers are cheap, ten dollars a pop, so the cost that matters here is attention. I have devices sitting in storage right now that I bought, used for a few weeks, and then quietly stopped reaching for. The Mugen and the regular V60 aren't in that pile, they're two I use, but this test made me ask why I was reaching for one over the other on a given morning, when the cup they produce, by the numbers, is the same cup.

The part that matters more than the brewer

What I came away with is that the brewer explains less of my cup than I want it to. The recipe, the grind, the pour pattern, the ratio, those are what move the flavor. I can get the exact result from the smooth-walled Mugen that I get from the ridged V60 if I treat them the same way, and I did, in this test, treat them exactly the same way. If you already own a regular Hario V60, you likely already own the tool you need to run every recipe experiment worth running. A second or third brewer from the same company isn't giving you a new lever, it's giving you a new shape to hold the same lever in.

If you're staring at a cart right now

If you don't have a V60 yet, start there, it's the baseline and it's cheap. If you already have one and you're eyeing something like the Mugen because you're assuming the smooth wall does something the plain cone can't, know that in a fair, controlled test, mine came out reading the same on TDS and extraction. That doesn't mean the Mugen is a bad brewer, I like it and I'll keep using it. It means how you brew is doing the heavy lifting, and the cone is along for the ride.

Where this leaves me

I'm not shocked by any of this. It lines up with what I already suspected, that technique carries more of the outcome than hardware does. What that changes for me, and maybe for you, is where the next hour goes: into recipes on the brewer already sitting on the counter, before assuming the next one will get you somewhere this one can't.

Common questions

Does the Mugen Dripper taste different from a regular Hario V60?

In my side-by-side test, no, not in any way I could measure. TDS and extraction came back essentially identical when I brewed both the same way, same ratio, same pours, same grind. My first impression was that the Mugen cup carried more weight through the middle of the sip, and the numbers didn't show a gap that would explain that. Both of those things can be true at once. They're measuring different things.

What's the actual physical difference between the Mugen and the standard V60?

Both are the same 60 degree cone from the same company. The Mugen has a completely smooth interior with no ridges, while the standard V60 has ridges along part of the wall. The V60's bottom opening is also a bit larger than the Mugen's. That's the whole list.

Should I buy the Mugen if I already own a Hario V60?

Based on this test, I wouldn't tell you it's necessary. If you're already getting a cup you like from your V60, the Mugen isn't going to hand you a meaningfully different result unless you also change how you're brewing. The bigger lever is the recipe.

Oaks, the Coffee Guy

A coffee roaster just trying to help others on their coffee journey.

https://everydaybeans.com
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